The facts may not change the minds of those already ideologically poisoned beyond help, but, the facts won’t be denied or rejected by others more rational – especially in light of Moira’s and other COGs heartbreaking testimonies. The Bible even has many examples of men with more than one wife. I was, to my shock, believed. This would be quite worrisome . You think they’re shutting out the biological argument, I think they’re shutting out the philosophical argument. abound. We both have come through hard times – times that God actually brought on so that we would open our eyes to His way of love and truth . There may also be good examples of dogs being good parents to cats, but, that would not be advantageous to their species or their species society. If you read her accounts, on top of the pederasty the mother was violent and held her under water in the bathtub. What I wanted to say was that the evolutionary biology argument could be better if the evolution part were left out . They reject anything that’s not reflecting their worldview . I have no respect for sexists like Moira Greyland. Instead of calling the cops, like any sensible human being, they simply moved my father into their apartment, which I called “The Love Nest” and they moved back into our family home. My father had written, with her editorial assistance, a book of apologetics for sex between adults and children called “Greek Love” under the pseudonym “J.Z. It may not matter to you that people might not like what you have to say, but does it matter to you that your religious arguments will make them “tune you out”? I am not to be labelled. Also, the way you dismiss my evidence-based arguments (Good parenting is more than biology; SS parents are good parents): you write: “vbigelow’s arguments are solely research based -biased and bad research at that .” REALLY?????? Rather it helps to being people into the debate . You have to exercise faith to do science: faith in induction, in logic, and in the human mind’s reliable access to external reality. But hey, let’s not even mention the fact that the father did hard prison time while the mother got off scot free, let’s virtue signal instead. VB: You challenge me to write Nathan and Zuk about “why his research” is unworthy. Agreed, Jae. By the time she became an adult her narcissistic, sicko patents had also made everyone think she was crazy so no one would corroborate her story. At no time did I try to get justice for myself, because in my moral structure I was the protector of others and I loved my father very much. Just curious. “There are no credible studies that show SSP as inferior.”. We’re watching the insanity destroy itself. That cause is a space -less ,timeless , personal being : God . As far as philosophical arguments providing the basis for moral/altruistic behaviors, I think evolutionary game theory is just as plausible as God. Ryan T. Anderson is devoutly Christian, but I have never heard him talk about his religious beliefs when defending traditional families, because it doesn’t work and he knows that. “We think that maybe fathers are doing things that are conducive to their children’s learning, but in a different way,” one of the researchers says.